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Moening Cartoon 7:46 AM
Cutler Essay 11:06 AM

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Moening Cartoon 6:48 AM
Cutlet Essay 10:41 AM

Cutler, don'tyou want people to see Moening's cartoons?

A fellow cartoonist.

Sure. I always look at Mr. Moening's work and I admire his talent. I wish that I had some artistic ability.

Cutler writes: "Sure. I always look at Mr. Moening's work and I admire his talent. I wish that I had some artistic ability"

If you admire his talent so much, why do you post your essays only 4 hours after his and send his cartoons into oblivion?

A fellow cartoonist.

Do your homework. I am not making a conscious effort to "downplay" anyone's work. You use two incidences out of 38 postings that I have written.

You appear willing to accept the notion that somehow my writings take away from Mr. Moening's work simply because I coincidentally have posted twice on the same day that he has. Do you feel that his talent is diminished simply because I am also on the site?

Or perhaps, since you are unwilling to identify yourself, your issue is really with me.

As I have stated before, if someone does not agree with me and is willing to state their case in an intelligent and well-constructed posting then I will be happy to give them space.

But if all you can offer is this kind of boring, repetitive personal attack without substantiation, then I will delete such further comments.

You are going to deny me freedom of speech, Cutler.

Moening's cartoon lasted a mere 4 hours before you sent it to oblivion.

You have a right to write anything you wish, but don't you believe that people should have a right to view Moening's cartoons for more than a mere 4 hours before you send it to oblivion?

Indeed, delete this if you don't want others to read it, but what does that say about your vaulted freedom of personal rights including freedom of speech?

You simply cannot have it both ways.

A fellow cartoonist in the real Maine,

You are going to deny me freedom of speech, Cutler.

Moening's cartoon lasted a mere 4 hours before you sent it to oblivion.

You have a right to write anything you wish, but don't you believe that people should have a right to view Moening's cartoons for more than a mere 4 hours before you send it to oblivion?

Indeed, delete this if you don't want others to read it, but what does that say about your vaulted freedom of personal rights including freedom of speech?

You simply cannot have it both ways.

A fellow cartoonist in the real Maine,

You are going to deny me freedom of speech, Cutler.

Moening's cartoon lasted a mere 4 hours before you sent it to oblivion.

You have a right to write anything you wish, but don't you believe that people should have a right to view Moening's cartoons for more than a mere 4 hours before you send it to oblivion?

Indeed, delete this if you don't want others to read it, but what does that say about your vaulted freedom of personal rights including freedom of speech?

You simply cannot have it both ways.

A fellow cartoonist in the real Maine,

You are going to deny me freedom of speech, Cutler.

Moening's cartoon lasted a mere 4 hours before you sent it to oblivion.

You have a right to write anything you wish, but don't you believe that people should have a right to view Moening's cartoons for more than a mere 4 hours before you send it to oblivion?

Indeed, delete this if you don't want others to read it, but what does that say about your vaulted freedom of personal rights including freedom of speech?

You simply cannot have it both ways.

A fellow cartoonist in the real Maine,

You are going to deny me freedom of speech, Cutler.

You did not just post twice on the same day he did; you twice posted 4 hours after he did. Moening's cartoon lasted a mere 4 hours before you sent it to oblivion.

You, of course have a right to write anything you wish, and I agree about MUCH of what you write, but don't you believe that people should have a right to view Moening's cartoons for more than a mere 4 hours before you send them to oblivion?

Don't you thing you should look to see what is posted before you and when; after all, it is apparent you spend a lot of time on your essays. How would you feel if Moening posted a cartoon 4 hours after you posted that long essay above.

How many people could read your essay in 4 hours; how many in 12?

So, feel free to delete this if you don't want others to read it, but what does that say about your your's and all Mainers' treasured freedom of personal rights including freedom of speech?

You simply cannot have it both ways.

A fellow cartoonist in the real Maine.

What on earth are you talking about? Mr. Moening's cartoon is still on the "Press Herald Post" blog site, right below my posting. Try clicking on "Press Herald Post" if you want to see postings for the past couple of weeks (there have not been many, unfortunately).

I do not have the ability to send any entries on that site "to oblivion".

If you look at "Maine, Now and Then" you will find only my postings because that is my site and my articles are the only ones there. If you check other authors' sites you will discover that the same holds true.

If you are going to accuse me of something, at least have the courtesy to be accurate.

A blog is defined as "a personal online journal". Any of the bloggers at the Press Herald Post site have the ability to edit their personal blog site, including any comments. The Press Herald Post site is edited by members of the PPH editorial staff.

You can indeed say anything that you want - that does not mean that I have to make it part of my article.

Why the attack when I have not done what you are accusing me of?

To the honorable Mr Cutler whose political views I share:

Perhaps you and your fellow bloggers know about the secret of clicking on the big read words "Press Herald Post." And maybe your editor does review and approve of your posting a meer 4 hours after anotherblogger, but most visitors to your blog probably go the old fashioned way:

We visit the online front past of the Press Herald site, we review the blogs listed at the lower right, we may click on yours listed there, and when yours comes up, Moening's is NOT shown below yours.

This secret clicking on the big red letters may be known to a few, but I doubt that is NOT the route followed by the many who read your post.

Thus, Moening's wonderful cartoons do, indeed, disappear when visitors come in this NORMAL way.

We NORMAL readers haven't been allowed into the secret club of those who go to blogs, then clock on Press Herald Post, and Then see everything in the last few days.

I am not attacking you. I am suggesting a bit of politeness. Mr Honoralble Cutler: give Moening's cartoons at least 12 hours on the front page before you send them to oblivion for we NORMAL readers.

A fellow cartoonist in the real Maine.

If you are visiting the "online front past of the Press Herald site", then you will today see Mr. Moening's most recent posting. By scrolling down, either with the scroll bar or by using your mouse to move the cursor down the page to the bottom, you will next encounter my posting and following that Mr. Moening's last posting.

If you follow your apparent preferred method and click on "Maine, Now and Then" at the right side of the page, you will find all of my postings (38) and none of Mr. Moening's. Should you choose "Patrick Moening" you will discover all 45 of his postings, but none of mine. The same holds true for the sites of Peter Hayward, Arthur Fink, etc.

I post when I have selected a subject and completed an entry, not to be in competition with any other authors. I do not believe that it is impolite to post on the same day as another author, since we both share space on the Press Herald Post main site.

No, Mr Cutler, whose political views I mostly agree with, by going to the front page, bottom right and clicking on "Improving Maine's economy" I am taken to "http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/blogs/phpost/040417.html".

There I find his very funny cartoon. I cannot scroll down and find anything. Only his post is on this page. There are no posts from the past week shown as there is when one uses you magical red letters.

Thus when NORMAL people go to the to the front page (or even to the blog page) and click on the TITLE of the blog entry, we are taken ONLY to that blog, and no others are shown underneath.

I think those Red Letters are like some secret handshake that only a few know. The rest of us take the obvious route.

Using the link from the title, people have NO IDEA what was posted only 4 hours before.

Try it if you don't believe me.

That is what NORMAL people do. They don't know to click on the red letters you mentioned; we don't have time to learn these tricks which are NOT explained on the site.

If the link on the front page went to where the magic Red Letters take one, you would be absolutely right, Moening's or anyone else's 4 hour earlier posts would NOT disappear when you or others post.

Why do I care?

Because 8 years ago I started my now successful as a cartoonist by posting on a small southern newspaper's website even though I live in the Penobscot county.

After a few years, a syndicate offered me a one year contract to produce 15 cartoons a month for them to sell to their client newspapers.

After that exposure, I now produce my cartoons for one of the major newspaper holding companies.

Moening deserves for his cartoons to be seen for at least 12 hours before you or your fellow bloggers knock them out of the url path that MOST readers use.

And you too, Mr Cutler deserve the same 12 hours before a fellow blogger sends your blog to oblivion from the url path MOST people use.

If Jean is your editor, ask her how most people get to YOUR posts, from the Magic Letters, or from the link on the front page which takes you only to the "post du jour" or in your case, the "post du moment."

And why can't I identify myself, because my contract prevents me allowing my name to appear in any newspaper not owned by my employer.

A fellow cartoonist from the real Maine

No, Mr Cutler, whose political views I mostly agree with, by going to the front page, bottom right and clicking on "Improving Maine's economy" I am taken to "http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/blogs/phpost/040417.html".

There I find his very funny cartoon. I cannot scroll down and find anything. Only his post is on this page. There are no posts from the past week shown as there is when one uses you magical red letters.

Thus when NORMAL people go to the to the front page (or even to the blog page) and click on the TITLE of the blog entry, we are taken ONLY to that blog, and no others are shown underneath.

I think those Red Letters are like some secret handshake that only a few know. The rest of us take the obvious route.

Using the link from the title, people have NO IDEA what was posted only 4 hours before.

Try it if you don't believe me.

That is what NORMAL people do. They don't know to click on the red letters you mentioned; we don't have time to learn these tricks which are NOT explained on the site.

If the link on the front page went to where the magic Red Letters take one, you would be absolutely right, Moening's or anyone else's 4 hour earlier posts would NOT disappear when you or others post.

Why do I care?

Because 8 years ago I started my now successful as a cartoonist by posting on a small southern newspaper's website even though I live in the Penobscot county.

After a few years, a syndicate offered me a one year contract to produce 15 cartoons a month for them to sell to their client newspapers.

After that exposure, I now produce my cartoons for one of the major newspaper holding companies.

Moening deserves for his cartoons to be seen for at least 12 hours before you or your fellow bloggers knock them out of the url path that MOST readers use.

And you too, Mr Cutler deserve the same 12 hours before a fellow blogger sends your blog to oblivion from the url path MOST people use.

If Jean is your editor, ask her how most people get to YOUR posts, from the Magic Letters, or from the link on the front page which takes you only to the "post du jour" or in your case, the "post du moment."

And why can't I identify myself, because my contract prevents me allowing my name to appear in any newspaper not owned by my employer.

A fellow cartoonist from the real Maine

Wow, "fellow cartoonist," if you can't figure out how to find "hot links" on a web site maybe this whole "internet" thing is a bit much for you.

Why don't you share your name and post a link to your cartoons? Any contract that prevents an American citizen's name from appearing in a newspaper wouldn't hold up in any court in this nation. Heck, just post a link to where your cartoons appear - I'm sure that company would appreciate the traffic.

And, as a cartoonist, Moening is really, really bad.

Sharky,

whose comments I have admired until now, how many people do you think would identify thebig red words "Press Herald Post" at http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/blogs/ as a link.

Sure the words "Improving Maine's economy" is a link, but how many readers...

You have debated with some of these readers, how many...

and why should they...

Why not somehow make the link obvious.

A fellow cartoonist in the real Maine

(and I know who I am; I don't have to prove it)

The crux of the matter appears to be that if one enters the Press Herald Post blog section by clicking on the featured entry at the bottom of "Home" page, then one will be taken to the most recent entry for that day and only that entry will be displayed.

In this, our unidentified commentator is correct.

I was not familiar with this linkage path.

If one clicks on the red "Press Herald Post" link at the top of the page, then all articles for the past couple of weeks listed in chronological order will be available by scrolling down.

If one selects a particular author from the list in red at the top right hand side of the page, then only the work of that particular author will be displayed.

Hopefully, I have covered all bases with this attempt at explanation. As with most computer links, there are several ways to travel to the information that you want to review.

Again, I am not trying to send any other contributor "to oblivion" but I will continue to submit for publication on my schedule alone. My apologies to Mr. Moening if he feels slighted, but I suspect that he is confident that his work can stand on its own and is not concerned with a "ranking system" as long as his talent is reviewed and appreciated.

"A fellow cartoonist" could show his support by making favorable comments in Mr. Moening's "Comments" section.

Pardon my sarcasm. It still surprises me that people haven't grasped the interactive nature of the internet yet. It's not a static page.

Different web pages require different learning curves to fully appreciate. As a general rule, simply scroll your cursor around a new page and see where your cursor turns into a hand - that's a link. Take a peek at the "status bar" at the bottom of your browser and you should see a URL which will tell you where that link goes.

As more users learn standard web navigation techniques, more web designers are making some links less "obvious." That allows them to unclutter the page. As Mr. Cutler stated, there are often several ways of navigating to the same area of a site. Some will be obvious, others not. Explore.

Still waiting to see your cartoons.

Please pardon my sarcasm, it was unnecessary. It still surprises me that people haven't grasped the interactive nature of the internet yet. It's not a static page.

Different web pages require different learning curves to fully appreciate. As a general rule, simply scroll your cursor around a new page and see where your cursor turns into a hand - that's a link. Take a peek at the "status bar" at the bottom of your browser and you should see a URL which will tell you where that link goes before you click.

As more users learn standard web navigation techniques, more web designers are making some links less "obvious." That allows them to unclutter the page. If you find a standard feature you enjoy, learn the quick path to it, or bookmark it.

As Mr. Cutler stated, there are often several ways of navigating to the same area of a site. Some will be obvious, others not. Explore.

Still waiting to see your cartoons.

Dag nab system....