I like Gordon. NASCAR grows increasingly vanilla- and Gordon ain't vanilla- and increasingly multi-corporate- and Gordon is so unstable I can't imagine him ever having teammates that don't want to kill him.

But he's FUN! He is interesting. And he absolutely can drive- he gets a lot out of a definite second/third tier effort. And he is a threat to win on any road course.

Is he kinda of a problem? yes. Should he be suspended? Yes. Am I glad he is in the sport? Absolutely.

Can you imagine parking him so another Kyle Busch/Casey Mears gets a ride? I don't even want to think about it.

Robby got ripped off. It seems Nascar rules are written so that they can be twisted all different ways. Ambrose also retaliated during the caution flag. He should also face a penalty for rough driving.

Not a big Robby fan, but he drove one heck of a race and did not deserve Nascar fixing the finish nor being taken out of the Cup race the next day. Hope he wins at Watkins Glen.

And if you want something to talk about, how about Kurt Busch jumping out of his car waving and drinking a can of Miller beer and encouraging everybody to hit the pubs? Who's the bad role model now?

Again we talk about role models, Hey! atleast they aint killing harmless dogs.

I agree with most of what everyone has said, I am not a Gordon fan but he usually gets a bad deal in a situation like this, he has intense drive and he is easily frustrated, that does not make him a bad person. Earnhardt is also easily frustrated as well, like telling Tony Jr. he can drive the car and then spinning out, hasn't he done something like that before? No no it was telling the crew if they don't fix it he is going to drive it into the wall! anyway I am just rambling trying to get someone stirred up. Lets not worry about role models and start accepting some responsibility in how we raise our kids. Go to a stick and ball sport arena and look at all the alcohol advertising everywhere, since when did it become illegal to have a drink or two on a Sunday? afternoon?

Never mind all the alcohol at the stick and ball games, just look in the stands at a Nascar race and seet how much there is!

I agree! My point is I am tired of our society blaming someone else for the way they or their children turned out, we are human and what separates us form other creatures is our intelligence (or lack there of)and our ability to reason. SO LET THE BOYS BE BOYS, and the Girls be Girls or vice-versa (I did see Danica in quite a heated argument over the weekend). I guess the bottom line is that it seems everyone wants everyone else to be a role model.

Now lets get back to racing!!!

The last time Jr hated his car, he told his crew over the radio that he was going to spin to bring out caution and he got caught by Nascar. Jr has learned to keep his mouth shut. And Danica was in a little shoving match with, I think it was Wheldon, a couple of weeks ago.

I was only kidding about Kurt and his beer. Been to enough races to know what goes on. I thought Kurt was goading ESPN after the Tony incident. Looks like a mini driver revolt with Tony, Robby and now Kurt.

What is there about us that we just love those bad boys in sports? How about Pedro when he used to see how close to a player he could throw those pitches?

Back to the subject---Kyle's going to Gibbs. Yay!!! Gibbs may be going Toyota. Nay!!!

were we watching the same race? they stole victory from robbie! tony was right it is the new wwe. lame nascar really lame

I think there were a whole lot of screw ups with that fiasco. I'm not disagreeing with that. I don't understand why they sent him back to 14th position to begin with.

How about that Ward Burton guy, what a driver. We was wast,not worse, but wast.

Robbie Gordon was wrong, Ambrose was wrong. NASCAR,if they really wanted him off should have called a caution. Drove a tow truck up to his car, and hauled him off the track like the little child that he was being.
Every once in a while NASCAR is like a big soap opera, however sometimes even soap operas get screwed up.